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	<title>Comments on: EMC/Cisco/VMware vBlock &#8211; an Economist&#8217;s Perspective</title>
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		<title>By: EMC/Cisco/VMware vBlock – OpEx Savings Courtesy of Ionix &#124; The Virtualization Practice</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In EMC/Cisco/VMware vBlock – an Economist’s Perspective, we made the following fundamental points: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: roidude</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualizationpractice.com/blog/?p=2757&#038;cpage=1#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>roidude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, although we are a VMware partner, we don&#039;t consider ourselves a &quot;VAR&quot;. We emphasize strategic design and implementation of data center virtualization &amp; UC solutions (which will soon become more intertwined). I think that VCE will be a good thing for INX in several respects - but I do agree for a traditional VAR it could possibly take away some business at the larger enterprise level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, although we are a VMware partner, we don&#8217;t consider ourselves a &#8220;VAR&#8221;. We emphasize strategic design and implementation of data center virtualization &amp; UC solutions (which will soon become more intertwined). I think that VCE will be a good thing for INX in several respects &#8211; but I do agree for a traditional VAR it could possibly take away some business at the larger enterprise level.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Your point about getting the storage, networking and server teams to all agree on one platform is a great one. I expect that EMC and Cisco will use their enterprise sales forces to go above those teams directly to the CIO and make an ROI case for this platform. This will obviously work in some accounts and not in others. What is going to be really interesting is the degree to which traditional VMware channel partners (like your company) embrace this platform yourselves. I think this is at best a mixed bag for the VMware VAR community. What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Your point about getting the storage, networking and server teams to all agree on one platform is a great one. I expect that EMC and Cisco will use their enterprise sales forces to go above those teams directly to the CIO and make an ROI case for this platform. This will obviously work in some accounts and not in others. What is going to be really interesting is the degree to which traditional VMware channel partners (like your company) embrace this platform yourselves. I think this is at best a mixed bag for the VMware VAR community. What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: EMC/Cisco/VMware vBlock – an Economists Perspective &#124; The &#8230; &#124; VirtualizationDir - Top Virtualization Providers, News and Resources</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: roidude</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualizationpractice.com/blog/?p=2757&#038;cpage=1#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>roidude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it&#039;s been a long time since my economics classes in undergraduate and graduate business school, I remember enough to have to take issue with your premises.
 
I disagree with your assertion, for instance, that, “…from an economists [sic - economist&#039;s is possessive] perspective, there is really one and only one simple question…”  First of all, rarely is anything having to do with economics simple. Secondly, the likelihood of all economists agreeing that the vBlock initiative comes down to a single question is about as likely as Obama winning the Nobel peace prize.  Wait – that happened didn’t it?  Still, very, very unlikely. The vBlock initiative could, for instance, be primarily a long term strategy to boost corporate confidence in a virtualized data center architecture that only incidentally translates to higher earnings per share someday down the road. Or other variables may be more important such as staving off competitive threats, helping the environment, etc. Even economists are not purely bottom-line focused.

IT decision-making tends to be project driven, based upon IT fiefdom requirements and typically tactical in nature. Even if vBlock is competitively priced compared to other solutions (something that I do not think at all is a given), the ability to get the storage, network and server teams to all agree upon a common platform is going to be very challenging – to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it&#8217;s been a long time since my economics classes in undergraduate and graduate business school, I remember enough to have to take issue with your premises.</p>
<p>I disagree with your assertion, for instance, that, “…from an economists [sic - economist's is possessive] perspective, there is really one and only one simple question…”  First of all, rarely is anything having to do with economics simple. Secondly, the likelihood of all economists agreeing that the vBlock initiative comes down to a single question is about as likely as Obama winning the Nobel peace prize.  Wait – that happened didn’t it?  Still, very, very unlikely. The vBlock initiative could, for instance, be primarily a long term strategy to boost corporate confidence in a virtualized data center architecture that only incidentally translates to higher earnings per share someday down the road. Or other variables may be more important such as staving off competitive threats, helping the environment, etc. Even economists are not purely bottom-line focused.</p>
<p>IT decision-making tends to be project driven, based upon IT fiefdom requirements and typically tactical in nature. Even if vBlock is competitively priced compared to other solutions (something that I do not think at all is a given), the ability to get the storage, network and server teams to all agree upon a common platform is going to be very challenging – to say the least.</p>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Mark Twomey, Bernd Harzog. Bernd Harzog said: EMC/Cisco/VMware vBlock – an Economists Perspective http://bit.ly/2LwaCx Analysis of how vBlocks are cheaper than VAR integrated solutions [...]</description>
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